Tuesday, December 16, 2014

Tara’s car crash… real or faked?

Everyone who follows PID knows the ‘official story’ of Tara Browne, Guinness heir and friend of The Beatles, being killed in a tragic car crash that, we are told, partially formed the inspiration for lyrics in A Day In The Life on the Sgt. Pepper album. Here are the basics in the Daily Mail Online in 2012…
Aside from John Huston calling Tara’s mother a witch (we won’t go there, although it is quite tempting), some of the so-called ‘facts’ in the case seem odd.
See also…
 
Let’s look at some troubling statements from these articles, as well as the famous ‘crash’ photo.
 
The Daily Mail calls their report ‘the true story,’ so they are pretty sure of themselves, but maybe they are perpetuating old lies. Right, so Tara slams his Lotus into the side of a parked van at 120 mph, does he? Here’s the famous crash photo…
 
 Does that look like a car that has slammed into anything at 120 mph? Here’s a crash test at 120 mph…
 
 
 
Now granted, the Ford Focus was made from different materials than a sixties Lotus, but does Tara’s car look like it hit a parked van at 120 mph?
 
Looks more like the Lotus was parked behind the old car you can see parked in front of it and someone gave the Lotus repeated blows with a sledgehammer. A swinging sledgehammer could have bashed the top back to rest on the rear of the car, mangled the driver’s side dash and knocked in the steering column, and the head of the sledgehammer could have made the odd gashes we see on the driver’s side of the Lotus. Whatever made the gashes and holes in the car’s body, it’s plain to see that the body was made of fiberglass, not steel. A steel body would dent, not show gashes and holes like that. Would a fiberglass car body hold up better than the body of a Ford Focus crashing at 120 mph? No, it would have splintered into bits and been crushed like the Ford Focus in the video crash test. No front seat survivors possible. Lots of blood.
 
Personally, I’m convinced someone bashed into ‘Tara’s car’ with a sledgehammer. Were they trying to make it look like a crash or was someone angry at Tara and did the clubbing (while Tara and reportedly Suki Poitier were indoors doing a different kind of clubbing)? Where’s the white van in the photo? Nowhere to be seen. According to the Abbey Road album (if one makes the connection as so many have) it was not a white van, but a ‘yellow lorry slow, nowhere to go’ (meaning you couldn’t avoid it at high speed). If there was ‘nowhere to go,’ he would have hit the yellow lorry, not a parked white van.
 
Interestingly in the Beatles Bible articles, just by pure coincidence, Tara was swerving to avoid an oncoming Volkswagen. A Beetle, right? Why not? There’s one parked in Abbey Road on the cover and we see the mystical Beetle in Stanley Kubrick films and Apple promos and films. Didn’t want to hit that Beetle, did he?
 
Would anyone have been angry at Tara at the time? His estranged wife, Nicki, for one. Her father, for another. Can’t blame me for speculating, when I’m just ‘reading between the lines’ of these articles. I’m not imagining Nicki herself wielding a sledgehammer, but I’ve heard that thugs were and are available for hire in Jolly Old London town, not to mention MI6.
 
So if Tara wasn’t killed in the so-called car crash, what happened to him and how did he disappear? Did the cops and newspapers and coroner fake the story? If so, then we will mention MI6.
 
Kensington and Chelsea are in densely populated central London. Could anyone drive 120 mph through it, even if insane enough to try? Why would a traffic light make any difference, if you’re flying through streets at 120 mph? You couldn’t stop quickly at that speed anyway, so what’s the nonsense about the traffic light Tara, according to John's lyrics, didn’t notice?
 
The Daily Mail have Tara driving Suki home after dinner at a restaurant. The Beatles Bible article, Tara Dies, reports that they left a friend’s house just before 1:00 a.m. and they were “in search of food.” At 120 mph, they were looking for a restaurant open late? Really?
 
When Tara and Nicki separated, she moved to Spain. To me, it’s mildly interesting that Nicki and ‘John Lennon’ were both in Spain in 1966, for very different reasons, we suppose. Nicki moved to Spain to get away from Tara and John and Dick Lester and crew moved down there to shoot a movie. Just lots of folks moving to Spain temporarily in 1966.
 
Tara died of his injuries the following day. Suki was ‘unharmed’ (again, see video of 120 mph crash test). Wait, what’s not right? The Beatles Bible says Tara died of his injuries the following day. The third paragraph of the Daily Mail story says he was ‘killed instantly.’ If Suki had not been in the car at all during the beating it took, then it would make sense that she was unharmed that night. There isn’t a drop of blood to be seen in the photo the Daily Mail calls ‘horrific wreckage,’ so we’re to believe Tara was ‘killed instantly,’ but didn’t bleed.
 
Seriously, I don’t think anyone died in the bloodless car in that photo. It was parked and no one was in it when the damage occurred. If it wasn't mauled by a sledgehammer, maybe something big and heavy was dropped from above on it, but I think a sledgehammer made the gashes (and probably all the other damage).
 
Sorry for the digression, but oddly, this reminds me of a Peter Gabriel song...

you'd better call the sledgehammer put your mind at rest I'm going to be-the sledgehammer this can be my testimony I'm your sledgehammer
let there be no doubt about it
 
The Beatles Bible articles quote Lennon in Anthology recalling the two Daily Mail articles he saw that inspired him to write A Day In The Life. One was Tara’s crash and the other was about the holes in Blackburn, Lancashire. This is an odd quote, ‘One was about the Guinness heir who killed himself in a car.’ Tara was supposed to be a close friend of both Paul and John, so why doesn’t John say ‘our friend’ instead of distancing himself by saying ‘the Guinness heir’? Why does he say Tara ‘killed himself in a car,’ which sounds like suicide?
 
In the dubious Barry Miles bio of McCartney, ‘Paul’ says it was a politician who ‘blew his mind out in a car.’ A politician? Sir Paul says it was nothing to do with a crash, but it may have been to John, but they wrote the song together. What?
 
As in so many tales of Beatles lore and legend, the Tara Browne crash story is full of holes, just like Blackburn, Lancashire. The Albert Hall, coincidentally, is not far away from the so-called Tara Browne crash scene in South Kensington, which was most likely nothing but a faked, psyop event.
But don't ask me what really happened to Tara, Paul, John, George and Ringo before 1967. Probably dead, but how and why?
 
 
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Thursday, November 20, 2014

Was Paul McCartney's Fate Written in the Stars?


An astrologer friend of mina (and fellow PID researcher), recently told me about some clues he had found in Paul McCartney's astrological chart. It might be a clue that Paul met an untimely and violent demise. The astrologer said that Paul's natal chart showed violence. Apparently, there was a Mars-Pluto conjunction in his 11th house [also see link for confirmation]. This supposedly showed that Paul had powerful enemies.

According to astrologer Dennis Harness, John F. Kennedy also had a Mars-Pluto conjunction (at 32:25):


Interview of Vedic Astrologer Dr. Dennis Harness



Direct link

Other tragic celebrities with Mars-Pluto conjunctions were Patsy Cline, who died aged 30 at the height of her fame as a Country music singer, and singer-songwriter Jeff Buckley, who died in an accident during his prime. [Link]
Mars stands for strife, war, conflict, aggressive force, violence, brutality, guns, shootings, knives, hatred, anger, belligerence, sexual violence, accidents and fires [among other things]. He rules the army, police, firefighters, militants and hot-heads and gets his justice by taking revenge. Pluto stands for groups, the international community (UN), cooperation or disunity, terrorists groups, the globalization of terror, dictators, tyrants, rogue countries, nuclear weapons, insidious barbarism, mass killings, threats, coercive enforcement, drastic measures, crime and crime networks. [Link
11th House: 
Traditionally known as the 'house of Good Fortune', the 11th house has rulership over friends and friendship, supporters, benefactors and those that help us directly or behind the scenes. It is the house of beneficial fate, positive hope, trust, praise, comfort, goals and ambitions. In modern astrology it is said to rule the wider social circle of acquaintances and groups, broader ambitions, political ideals and those who share our aims. Its condition indicates the fidelity or falseness of friends and it has rulership over promotion by recommendation of others.  
Historically it is associated with the king's (or ruler's) favourites, councillors, servants, their associates or allies. It represents parliament and councils generally, and supporters of the government or ruling power. [Link]

Mars In The Eleventh House in Horoscope (Mars in The 11th house) (especially relevant at end)




Pluto In The 11th House


Cally Roberts • 1 year ago (#1 of 6) The Astrology of Child Abuse and Murder: Observing Mars-Pluto in Aspect ... We can’t go and assume that everybody with this aspect will experience abuse. However, in the few cases of severe child abuse and murder in the family as seen below, the Mars-Pluto aspect shows up too frequently to be a “coincidence”...  
Mars-Pluto is sometimes found in the charts of people who suffer from a violent death... [Link]
As many people know, my personal feeling based on my research is that Paul was assassinated and his identity was hijacked by a controlled imposter. I think this happened because Paul was hoping to do good in some way (using his position as a Beatle), but the powers that be wanted to stop him. Is it possible that astrology supports this conclusion?
When Mars is in the 11th House... Arguments with colleagues... are very common with this placement because of the tendency of the Mars person to use the organisation as a platform for his own views and ambitions. [Link]
When allowed to lead, however, Mars in the eleventh house can shine and is often able to achieve a great deal of social change. [Link]
Pluto in the 11th House: 
A strong reformist streak can then develop in you and you'd need to be prepared to stand up and be counted at some stage. Because you emanate, consciously or otherwise, this aura of social change or upheaval, others are likely to react against it by projecting their own unconscious feelings (good and bad) on to you. They then reject you or are strongly drawn towards you, or both, alternately. Looked at in another sense, this propensity gives you a talent as a group leader and for paving a way into the future. [Link]
Some song clues that also might suggest a violent end to James Paul McCartney are "Happiness if a Warm Gun," "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill" (what did you kill?), and "Why Don't We Do It in the Road." Yes, I suspect that they are NOT talking about sex, but about the scenario in "Condensed Cream of the Beatles," [link] which I think may be telling us that Paul's car was run off the road and he was assassinated.
If anyone can offer more insight into the astrology behind this, please leave a comment.

Tina Foster

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Tuesday, October 28, 2014

The Tragical History of PID - Part 1


The Paul is Dead (PID) "rumor" began after fans noticed the Beatles had changed drastically seemingly overnight. For example, in March 1967, many audience members on the Dick Clark show  commented on the Beatles "new look," which was introduced in the promotional video for “Strawberry Fields Forever.” 1 Some complained that the Beatles looked “old” and “ugly.” In October 1967, during the filming for the "Magical Mystery Tour" movie in Nice, France, McCartney and Malcolm (“Mal”) Evans “were refused entry to the hotel restaurant because they didn't look the part." 2




Not only did the Beatles look different, they also acted differently (including becoming reclusive) to such an extent that fans sensed that there was something terribly wrong with the formerly happy-go-lucky Fab Four. After the lads returned from their summer 1966 U.S. tour, manager Brian Epstein publicly announced (on or about September 11, 1966) that the band would never play live again. Keeping Paul and the others out of the spotlight seemed deeply troubling because it was such a radical break with the past. 

Some grew suspicious that something was amiss with the group. Cynthia Lennon herself noted that this was a time of “tremendous ... mental and physical change for the Beatles” People began to whisper that Paul had died in a car crash, and the new Paul ("Faul") was keeping up appearances. 

The rumor of Paul’s death raged on, and before long, it was rampant around London. In February 1967, the Beatles Book Monthly, the Beatles' official fan club magazine issue #43,  responded with the following refutation: 

... The 7th of January was very icy, with dangerous conditions on the M1 motorway, linking London with the Midlands, and towards the end of the day, a rumor swept London that Paul McCartney had been killed in a car crash on the M1. But, of course, there was absolutely no truth in it at all... 4

Despite the Beatles Fan Club’s reassurances, fears that Paul was dead lingered. In the fall of 1968, someone approached Rolling Stone magazine about a list of McCartney death clues. Rolling Stone was not interested at the time because “too many people had seen Paul alive and it was the same old Paul...” 5

However, talk of Beatle Paul's death was so widespread that McCartney “was asked a thousand times” if he were “Paul or his clone” to which he prepared a ready-made answer: ‘I am neither Paul nor his clone, but I went out last night with your wife.’” 6 McCartney added “But it was a bit strange, because people started to look at me like, 'Is it really him or a very good double?' No, this is him!" 7

The rumor returned with a vengeance in September 1969. Adding fuel to the fire were a slew of clues to the switcheroo that fans gleaned from Beatles' lyrics, photos, and album covers. These were first exposed in a college newspaper article, and then picked up by a Detroit radio station before breaking worldwide with extensive coverage on all major TV and print media. By October 1969, people all over the world were crying over Paul McCartney. Many were convinced that he was dead. 

More to come...

References

1 American Bandstand, March 11, 1967, available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysG6GN9n3nE or http://www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/dickclarka.mpg

2 "Mal Evans," available at http://beatlesnumber9.com/mal.html.

3 “The years 1966-67 were tremendous years of mental and physical change for the Beatles.” Cynthia Lennon, A Twist of Lennon, Avon Books, 1980,  p. 145; Alan Glenn, “‘Paul is Dead!’ (said Fred),” November 11, 2009, available at  http://michigantoday.umich.edu/2009/11/story.php?id=7565&tr=y&auid=5578331; Brian Moriarty, “Who Buried Paul?,” from a presentation on March 17, 1999, available at http://ludix.com/moriarty/paul.html; Paul McCartney รจ morto davvero, Interactive Media, 21/7/2009, available at http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/spettacolo/articoli/articolo455762.shtml; Paul McCartney is really dead, Interactive Media, 21/7/2009, available at http://tinyurl.com/ngp29e

4 Beatles Book Monthly was the magazine of the official Beatles Fan Club. Brian Moriarty, “Who Buried Paul?,” from a presentation on March 17, 1999, available at http://ludix.com/moriarty/paul.html;  Jim Yoakum, “Man Who Killed Paul McCartney,” Gadfly May/June 2000, available at http://www.gadflyonline.com/archive/MayJune00/archive-mccartney.html; Alan Glenn, “‘Paul is Dead!’ (said Fred),” November 11, 2009, available at http://michigantoday.umich.edu/2009/11/story.php?id=7565&tr=y&auid=5578331 

5 John Burks, “A Pile of Money on Paul's 'Death',” Rolling Stone, 11-29-69, p. 10, available at http://www.turnmeondeadman.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=12.


6 “Paul McCartney: A new Interview in an italian newspaper,” MaccaBlog, November 25, 2009, available at http://www.maccablog.co.uk/news.php?news=6524.

7  “Macca still laughing off 40-year-old death hoax,” 2009 WLNR 13648569, 7/17/09 Hindustan Times , July 17, 2009, available at http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/celebrity/macca-still-laughing-off-40-year-old-death-hoax_35418.html.

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Tina Foster


Saturday, October 11, 2014

THE REAL DEAL WITH JIM FETZER PID PODCAST



THE REAL DEAL WITH JIM FETZER PID PODCAST


Well, this will be an especially controversial interview for some people, since I talk about the replacement of John Lennon... Try to keep an open mind (& open eyes).

Be sure to check out other interviews with Jim here.

Tina Foster

Thursday, October 2, 2014

Imagine: John Fennon




Imagine, if you will, a band of highly popular and influential musicians that butted heads with the controllers of the media. Before the Beatles made it big, they seemed harmless enough. The lovable Mop Tops crooned about love, loss, and normal problems everyone experiences. No one thought that, once they got big, they would use their position to improve the social consciousness. From their soapbox atop the world stage, they would draw attention to problems affecting humanity at a deeper level. The Beatles did continue to sing about love, but added societal concerns, such as excessive taxation and having to become enslaved to the state for one's survival. The song, "Taxman," criticized Her Majesty's government and its almost punitive taxation system. Many people who had never considered the lack of fairness in the tax system began to think about it. Multitudes of dissatisfied subjects are a threat to the ruling elite. The Beatles as social commentators was disturbing to those in power. In addition, the Beatles were promoting religious beliefs that had the potential to free people's minds from control. Meditation breaks the shackles of mind control. The belief in the eternal soul removes the fear of death. Many people have been controlled by the fear of death - either due to the threat of eternal damnation or the cessation of existence. Once people realize that the consciousness (the soul) continues on, then there is nothing to be afraid of.  The control once wielded to great effect is lost. No one amongst the ruling elite appreciated the Beatles exposing the masses to such ideas. 



John Lennon attacked Christianity outright. In his famous statement, he said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus. HIs point was that the Beatles were comprising a larger part of people's lives than Jesus was. In good form, John apologized, but it did challenge people's belief structure. In his observation, John had hit a nerve. The outraged backlash betrayed how close to home John's words had struck. Many knew it was true, but did not want to admit it - not even to themselves. In actuality, Jesus was not the problem, but rather the control structure of the Christian Church. John had simply used Jesus as the symbol of the Church, and was heralding the loss of control over people the Church had suffered. His statement appears to have been exploited to tarnish John's image. After this statement, the Beatles as a threat to the established order could no longer be tolerated by the powers that be.



Once the decision had been made to remove the Beatles from the public stage, suitable replacements had to be found. As it turned out, the Beatles were easy to replace. Putting facial hair and colorful clothes on them, and keeping them out of the spotlight helped conceal the impostors. It is true that the public noticed that they seemed different, but only Paul was really suspected of having been replaced. His double did not portray Paul very well. In passing off the subterfuge, many techniques were employed. Audio and visual tampering helped create the illusion that the Fab Four were still with us. In addition, the infrequency of appearances helped people forget what the originals had been like. "John" appeared in "How I Won the War," but every screenshot was carefully managed. The actor playing John playing the character, Gripweed, had to study John to interpret how John would play that role. He did a pretty good job, as no one really suspected for a long time that it was not John.


At any rate, the doubles were completely bought and sold by their masters. It is important to understand that they were controlled opposition. The Beatles had been true to themselves and spoken their true minds. The replacements said what they were told to say. Even "John's" revelation about LSD was false information. He said LSD set people free, but in reality, it is a mind control drug. Many people incorrectly think that this statement precipitated his assassination. In actuality, John had been out of the picture for many years and his double was simply being retired. It was determined that it would be better for him to go out in a "blaze of glory" that would be seared into the public consciousness. Questioning the official story would be most unpopular, as it would be seen as a sign of disrespect. Only now can people entertain the possibility that the assassination was staged. It is not so far-fetched considering that a CIA guy (Jose Perdomo) was the doorman, how Paul's double reacted so nonchalantly to the news (It was a "drag"), and how quickly the body was "cremated." It may well be true that John was killed, only years earlier...

Now the time has come to wrap this up. Many indications exist pointing to Beatles' replacements. It may be more difficult to see that John was replaced than Paul, but the tells are there. Look at the eyes, the smile, the stance, the cutting wit, and the woman John chose - a beautiful blonde. The personality of Beatle John was nothing like "John" played by an actor. Discern subtle and not so subtle differences. Embark on the path to uncovering one of the most ambitious psyops in history - the impostor-replacement of the Beatles.

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Tina Foster
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Stay tuned for Tina's discussion with Jim Fetzer - to be posted as soon as it is available.



Monday, September 29, 2014

And in the end...





And in the end, quite a daring conspiracy to kill and replace a world famous musician has been revealed by various PID researchers. Oodles of circumstantial evidence that Paul McCartney was impostor-replaced has been presented over the years. Just based on the forensic comparative analysis alone (Carlesi and Gavazzeni, Wired Itala, 2009), it is obvious that Paul is no longer with us.

Once it sinks in that the lovable Mop Top was switched out, the natural impulse is to look for reasons as to why anyone would do such a thing. Unfortunately, this is difficult to determine and involves much speculation. However, one can look to clues left in the music and album art, as well as take into consideration other factors, such as people’s state of consciousness, music, the drug culture, and even the Vietnam War.

Once one realizes that Paul McCartney was effecting a change of consciousness, then what once seemed perplexing starts to make sense. During the Beatles’ reign as kings of the pop-charts, they saturated the airwaves with the frequency of Love. People responded by loving them in return. Paul wove Love into the fabric of his music. When people heard it, the melodies resonated with the heart chakra. The heart opened, and Love flowed from one person to the next. 

Once Love began to inundate people’s very souls, it started to cause a realignment towards Creator. In very real terms, the music was changing the world. Just as the shift was gaining momentum, the powers that be decided they had to stop it. To that end, Paul, as the instigator of the shift in consciousness, had to be removed. In what appears to have been a well-planned and executed operation, the famous Beatle was assassinated and impostor-replaced with a lookalike double. Paul was (perhaps) dumped in Puget Sound, never to resurface. In Los Angeles, Paul’s body double appeared in public for the first time on August 28, 1966. Upon the Beatles'/Featles' return to England, it was decided that it would be best to minimize the new Paul’s exposure. During the next few years, all public appearances were carefully managed. In the intervening years, the new Paul seems to have become confident in his role as the famous Beatle. In a joint action, Paul McCartney, as he is now known, seems to have tried to free himself from the constraints of being Beatle Paul. To that end, it seems he has tried putting out music under the alias of Fireman. Is the new Paul  desperate for approval of his work? Is he fed up with Paul’s work constantly being lauded while his is dismissed? Does he keep producing music in the hopes that he will be recognized for his own work one day? 

After stepping into Paul’s Beatle Boots, new Paul ceased to exist as his own person. Eventually, it appears he became angry and irritable stuck in the role of a much more talented musician. The relationship is akin to sibling rivalry, with Paul being the one who outshone his impostor. In the past, new Paul resented his famous target. Now, however, it seems he has learnt to deal with the dichotomy through conscious separation of his two identities. In very real terms, Paul’s stand in keeps Paul’s memory alive, even if it is a false impression of how reality was. 

Now that Paul is being separated out from the conjoined twin relationship he was forced into with new Paul, people are remembering what a talented bright light he was. Paul is being reclaimed as one of the public’s favorite heroes. In killing Paul, those responsible unwittingly created a situation in which his memory would impact future revelations. With the unmasking of his double, Paul has become the central figure in exposing the impostor-replacement psyops that occur behind the scenes. Because of Paul, many people are now aware of a most evil program to kill certain individuals and replace them with controlled doubles. Paul’s popularity, talent, and good looks make him the ideal vehicle for exposing this hidden agenda. It is quite ironic that those responsible who wanted to exploit his charm for propagating evil on the planet ended up revealing their own evil secret program through Paul’s inept impostor.

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Tina Foster
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Stay tuned for Tina's interview with Jim Fetzer, which will air on October 6. 2014. The possible replacement of John Lennon and the other lads will be discussed. The link will be posted to the Plastic Macca blog as soon as it is available.



Monday, September 22, 2014

Do You Want to Know a Secret? Intro to PID



People who know him say there is “the real McCartney and there is Beatle Paul.” 1

~ Mark Edmonds

“It’s not natural for ANYONE to play Paul [McCartney].” 2
~ Matt Robertson

Paul McCartney once sang, “You don’t look different, but you have changed.” 3 The same could be said for him. In late summer of 1966, the world-famous Beatle went missing. His presumed death has been kept a secret for nearly half a century. 

How has this fact been concealed? A trained double stepped into McCartney’s Beatle boots within a matter of days (August 25-28, 1966). In addition, media manipulation, including photo-, video-, and sound-editing, have been used to further the deception [LINK]. Research on the use of doubles shows that it is not only possible to impostor-replace someone, but that it has been done [LINK].

Compelling forensic evidence has been presented as proof that Paul McCartney was switched out right under the noses of unsuspecting onlookers [LINK]. Will the world remember the talented and charming young musician, or will the operative impostor stand-in  (Faul) permanently hijack his legacy?

This blog is an attempt to expose the replacement and reclaim James Paul McCartney’s memory from those who usurped it. If you have ever wondered, “What happened to Paul McCartney?,” read this blog from the beginning.

More to come...

Stay tuned for Tina Foster’s interview with Jim Fetzer on October 6, 2014.

Footnotes

1 Mark Edmonds, “Sir Paul McCartney confronts the ghosts of his past,” The Sunday Times,” November 23, 2008, available at http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article5188290.ece.

2 Sandra Sperounes, "Meet Edmonton's Other Paul McCartneys," Edmonton Journal, November 27, 2012, available at
http://web.archive.org/web/20121201143128/http://www.edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/Meet+Edmonton+other+Paul+McCartneys/7612316/story.html

3 Lennon/McCartney, “I’m Looking Through You,” Rubber Soul, 1965.
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Tina Foster
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