Thursday, September 24, 2009

Faul in Line: PID, Truth Suppression, & Info Wars in Cyberspace (updated)

Paul McCartney (left) vs. Faul (right)
One particularly interesting thing that has come to light during the course of my research & involvement with PID is how infiltrated & even controlled some of the online forums are. For example, the PID threads on different forums have been targeted by what seem to be disinfo agents. It seems that their agenda is to get the threads closed & kill any discussion of Paul McCartney & his replacement. This is something I come up against a lot:
19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation (Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist)

.. Since their goal is to silence you, it would serve their ends to have both you and
themselves banned from a given forum or online publication. They don’t really want to be there anyway. They want you to shut up. If you’re not there, they have no reason to be there. In all outcomes, it is your removal they seek. They will do whatever is
necessary to accomplish that goal. They have no personal interest in the forums they

If you are a target, anything you post online will be targeted with inane and pathetic criticism. Even the smallest aspect of what you write will be magnified by the fake activists. They will interpret anything and everything in the worst possible light. My advice on this is to ignore it. Real activists will see it for what it is...

Finally, they will often pretend to be activists bored with your writings. This, of course, is absurd. Think about it. When you see a boring article, what do you do? If you are normal, you just don’t read it and go on. You do not spend your time responding to it and elucidating to the world just how boring it is. Only a troll does that. If you are political, that troll is a COINTELPRO operative...

All forums have administrators. Being a forum administrator requires time and effort. In fact, it is a headache. Forum administrators must deal with complaints, they must comply with their host’s terms of service, and they must monitor the forum. While it may be the case that some forum administrators are motivated by a love for debate, a desire to create a community, or a dedication to free speech, ask yourself a simple question; do you really believe that the percentage of people within the human population dedicated to such concerns, with ample time on their hands and sufficient knowledge of technology are large enough to support the hundreds of thousands of online forums worldwide? I doubt it. You should doubt it too.
Given this observation, it follows that one should assume just the opposite. Specifically, one should assume that a great number of forum administrators are interested in something other than a love for debate, a desire to create a community or a dedication to free speech. I propose that most online forums are a kind of Trojan horse. They are offered on false pretences. Sitting behind the forum, the administrator may be more interested in things such as making money, identity theft, blackmail, extortion and governmental monitoring. Indeed, what I have discovered is that many online forums are run by retired police officers. Several I have encountered are run by a U.S. Army PsyOps agent. Others are run by intelligence agencies.

I do not wish to make you paranoid. There are some good forums out there. I tried to run a few. When I refused to share IP information with COINTELPRO and refused to
display IP information publicly, they shut me down through relentless harassment.

In my own case, the administrator of a forum on which I was posting provided all of the information he could to COINTELPRO and actively assisted them in harassing me. Given this experience, I suggest you do not use a forum unless you personally know the forum administrator...

An Introduction to The Signs And Techniques of Online COINTELPRO
By Stephen DeVoy
...Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for
a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum
can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting
unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into
complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is
the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by
the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms.
Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can
deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting
memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline.
By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not
always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a
'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and
from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda
Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum.
...What all of this seems to suggest is that the Powers That Be (PTB) have developed COINTELPRO to an all new level of Social Shaping, Cultural Brainwashing, and the main targets of this activity would include virtually anyone who is seeking the truth about the shifting realities of our world. The cases of COINTELPRO activities against political groups must be no more than the tip of the iceberg, given that the great bulk of COINTELPRO-type operations remain secret until long after their damage has been done. By all indications, domestic covert operations have become a permanent feature of U.S. politics and Social Programming, and it is hardly likely, considering the evidence, that the New Age and Human Potential fields are exempt.

The implications of this are truly alarming. Those who manage to get close to the truth of these matters, despite the many obstacles in their path, face National covert campaigns to discredit and disrupt their research and reputations. Clearly, COINTELPRO and similar operations under other names also work to distort academic and popular perceptions of the problems facing our world. They have done enormous damage to the search for the Truth.

How to Spot COINTELPRO Agents
Laura Knight Jadczyk

Another tactic used by disinfo agents is to constantly harass the mods on a given forum for any minor thing their opponents say that could even remotely be considered "rude" or "ridiculing." Any chance they get, they will complain to the moderators until they get a thread closed. The best strategy is to simply ignore them.

Disinfo agents will also use multiple usernames and give "each other" support. To outsiders, it makes it seem that there is more support for a particular viewpoint than there really is. An example of this is Light_man/Socrates/Bealert on the David Icke Forum. The same person posts relentlessly on PID threads to try to "debunk" PID. This person will support himself with his various aliases. For example, "Light_man" will comment positively on "Bealert's" anti-PID comment. How do I know it is the same person? Bealert is using the exact same signature today that Light_man was using yesterday (Light_man has since changed it). I asked the mods to investigate, but I am not optimistic that they will. And even if they did, this person is probably using different IP addresses to sign up.

There are some people who think Above Top Secret (ATS) is COINTELPRO:

This was posted by "Darrell Kern" (see comment section):
...I was banned from ATS for even mentioning AMKON...

Sadly my request for confidentiality had not been honored as he had already spilled the beans to a few people which led to questions from them as well. I found out that the William Morris Agency does not represent ATS nor it's staff or site owners and much investigation revealed many aliases of site owners and many nefarious things which led me to formulate an opinion that ATS is a COINTELPRO organization and I will hold this opinion until all research is completed...

ATS began sending spies over to AMKON since AKMON hit the net- but the activity increased substantially and my posted findings and research began getting debunked by a series of "newbie members" who began signing up quite fast and in record numbers!!! All calling me a liar and worse. I found myself in the middle of a tremendous battle of the highest drama level (it literally was more entertaining that a soap opera). It came down to litigious threats- typical webgang activity and all 25 techniques were employed against me. When I did not capitulate or become intimidated (I was drawn in and I threatened exposure and posted entertainment industry consequences which would be imminent should the truth resemble my opinions). Soon ATS sent a site owner to handle the bad blood- he came in and immediately used all 25 techniques!...
Hello, this is Eric Dubay, author of The Atlantean Conspiracy:

Are any of you on this forum members of ATS ( I know Mason/agent "Harte" is. I’m a long time member/poster and I have just received 5 unwarranted back-to-back warnings and posting ban from one of the site owners 1 day after posting this very important thread EXPOSING MASONS IN HOLLYWOOD. It’s called “The Will I Am Legend” and it hit too close to the mark for the Masons who own ATS:
Once my book came out I was banned from Unexplained as well, another Mason run conspiracy board. If you’re curious how I KNOW that these two forums are controlled by Masons feel free to message me and I’ll explain – I don’t want to take up too much space here. Suffice to say, ATS and, two boards supposedly dedicated to “conspiracy theory,” do not welcome my very SOLID research...
I think this one pretty much says it all:
Posted 13 August 2008 - 11:02 AM
After being censored on ATS myself, I did some research and found the following information :

I did a trace route on ATS. the Node Name is listed and maintained by the government.
IP Address 213.206.128 213.206.129 213.206.130
Node Name Gov-bb21-lan-14 Gov-bb22-lan-15 Gov-bb23-lan-16
Location Langley, Virginia
MS 60
Network Used (for military network information)
It was difficult to get the IP Address, It was spoofed and looped over 9 times. Anyway Langley, Virginia is where the CIA headquarters is. I'm more than concerned...

Update: (10/15/08) Now Conspiracy Cafe has closed the PID thread. That was the shortest lived one of all. It seems they couldn't handle/allow any discussion of Illuminati involvement in what happened to Paul.

Update: (1/13/10) ATS issues a warning for posting some of the above links on the forum. I believe ATS has been infiltrated by disinfo agents. Apparently, they do not want anyone to see this information or at the very least, cannot take any criticism. Their actions merely reinforce my conclusion that they are not entirely what they claim to be: a vehicle for exposing the truth.

Update: (1/19/10) I think some of us were already aware of this strategy, but now they are just coming right out and saying what they are doing.

Paul Watson on Alex Jones Tv: Obama’s Info Czar Sets Plan To Infiltrate Truthers & Alex Jones

Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, Obama's appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, outlined a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy.
Go to the article to watch videos about this.

Update (4/1/10): Light_man on the David Icke forum has resorted to the lowest of disinformation tactics. He has posted a picture of me to show me that he knows who I am. I suppose this threatening posture is his spineless attempt to try to intimidate me into not posting anymore. All he has done has shown me that I am getting to them - that I am effective. It has strengthened my resolve to fight until the Truth about Paul McCartney is revealed. I filed a complaint with the Icke forum staff yesterday, but I have not received a response. I do not expect them to take any action, as they have likely been infiltrated as well.

I strongly suspect Light_man is a paid disinformation agent. He posts under various aliases, such as "Socrates" and "Bealert." This person uses multiple usernames to support his own posts to create the illusion that he has more support from other forum members than he really does. What he is, though, is a joke and an embarassment - even to fellow PIA'ers.

UPDATE (8/11/10): ATS has resumed its crackdown on PID Truth. Last year, it permanently shut down a PID thread after PIAgents launched one of their coordinated campaigns against us using their usual tactics of insulting, bullying, and intimidating PID Truthers.

PID Truther, Getsmart, started a new thread called PID - Motivations for the Murder of Paul McCartney. ATS promptly moved it from the higher traffic area where it had originally been posted to the BTS forum (Below Top Secret) to ensure that it would have less visibility. At any rate, Getsmart politely requested that no PIAgents post on the thread, and that the thread should only be used to discuss theories about what happened to Paul.

PIAgent, Edmond Dantes, refused to respect that request, and has started spewing his vitriolic venom on the thread to try to get the thread shut down. I sent a polite request to the ATS staff to ask him not to post on that thread because he was disrespecting the OP's request and was trying to provoke us with his off-topic posts to get the thread closed. For my efforts, forum staff member, GAOTU789, sent me a warning! Excuse me?

[The moderator GAOTU789 has signatures links that appear to be pro-war in Afghanistan and pro military intervention. He has chosen a Knight Templar for his avatar, which is a reference to the Templars that founded Scottish Rite Freemasonry and are connected to British intelligence.]

Well, to be honest, if you are going to try to expose the Truth about Paul McCartney's death and replacement, you can expect that and much worse. As I have related in other blog posts, I have been subjected to harassment, intimidation, and even threats for trying to expose what happened to Paul. Anyone who thinks PID is just a "hoax" should ask themselves why PIAgents try to silence PID Truthers.

The Luciferian Deception
Reptilians, Cetaceans and Frequency Wars on Planet Earth


  1. Great blogg! Keep up the good work :)

  2. Rockin' like usual Tina!

    What they don't host they infiltrate, and it's rather fun to taunt them in their lair.

  3. Even though I am a PIA'er, I am embarrassed by Socrates/Light_man, whoever he is, doing this. At least you all don't stoop so low.

  4. Socrates/Light_man is a paid disinfo agent, IMO. People are starting to wonder why he spends so much time & energy "debunking" a theory he claims is "silly." He's just hoping people won't actually start investigating PID & seeing for themselves that Paul was replaced.

  5. Light_man/Socrates/Bealert is also posting under multiple usernames. This individual uses multiple aliases to support his own posts & create the illusion that he has more support from other forum members than he really does.

    I guess that's just another disinfo tactic to watch out for.

  6. my coat for jim paul mac attack illuminati or not tobe that is the question was pete townshend framed? Why does the less talented david grohl make wee wee on kurt cobain's grave?

  7. When you only post about the debunkers, they win.

  8. What happened to " Paul is dead,miss him" ? I tried to log on, and the site is no longer there. Is this something to do with disinfo?

  9. ^ Not sure why PID MH was taken down. Have heard from several people it was that troll, Kathryn O'Connor, who was behind it. She's been trying to take the forum down for at least a year - even tried to recruit hackers from other forums to attack it. Anyway, Proboards suspended the account w/out informing me as to why. We have a new PID MH forum, though, at I was able to copy a lot of good info from the old forum to the new one, but unfortunately, a lot of good info & research was lost.

  10. Paul was certainly killed. Tina, the difficulty I have with The Beatles, post-Paul, is how much of the Beatles music was actually theirs. As I said to you in an email, I am a guitarist. I was an active, gigging guitar player in many blues and blues-based bands. I am no longer that because I no longer have the time to devote to my craft. I know that if you want to innovate as did The Beatles, Faul era, you must come close to living music. There are no forays into helping create and further the International Times, or creating "the scene" in London. There is no time for movie making, unless, of course, days are spent filming and nights are spent playing, either with band members jamming, or in studio recording/jamming. There are no lengthy trips to India, spain, France, Africa, etc. BUT. With The Beatles-Faul era, while allegedly pursuing their crafts as musicians, they spent more time socializing than they did creating music. Though I believe George H. was a dedicated guitarist, I cannot say the same for any other Faul-era Beatle. And so, I wonder exactly what help they had making the music, much of which is Faul-era, that so many Beatles fans love.

  11. I love your site Tina. Thank you for getting the truth out.

  12. GAOTU789 = "Grand Architect Of The Universe"



  13. I think the best comment was how on Icke's forum it's perfectly accepted that reptilian shapeshifters are posing as human politicians and celebritie, but to suggest that a Beatle was replaced by a human lookalike makes you "crazy."



  14. Thank you Tina; for all the effort you put into finding the Truth, about what happened to JPM and what they try to hide from us on many levels.

    Julie Martin

  15. I find it interesting how I am a Phoney and Memoirs of Billy Shears seem to suggest that Faul wants to get the truth out, while at the same time the trolls and disinfo mob are in overdrive seemingly to ensure the truth doesn't go mainstream (far out, what's wrong with these sheeple!!). Has he had a change of heart? Certainly some of the screaming and adulation would stop if he was outed. Such a ponse in his pink suit and knitted tank tops. The Emperor has been naked for so long *sigh*


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